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Reddit: a major "share a random URL" server bans climate skeptics

I know the reddit.com server as one of the servers where you may "share an URL".

Why someone would visit this server has always been completely incomprehensible to me – the pages on reddit.com look like a collection of trash – some random URLs – and the discussions attached to these URLs seem to be overwhelmed by trolls. I have been thankful to reddit.com as one of the sinks of the trolls' energy – a place where this foam of the Internet interacts with itself so that it has less time to annoy decent Internet users.



Even Reddit's official logo seems to confirm that this is the mission of the server.

For example, it seems to me that the majority of comments linked to URLs about physics that I have seen in my life were controlled by various clones of the prolific Czech crackpot Zephir (I don't know him or her in person, I believe). If you've read some other physics blogs, you must have encountered dozens of "aether wave theory contributions" by this particular lunatic. If you are dreaming about an even higher concentration of similar comments, search for physics articles at reddit.com.

So reddit.com is a junk server but it has appeared almost "on par" with Google+, Facebook, and Twitter and it claims to have 4 million subscribers which makes it a "big fish" of a sort which is why you may care about its major policy decisions.

A few hours ago, Jan Urban sent me a rather incredible article – and encouraged me to be careful while reading it.

Warning: the following external URL points to a potentially dangerous server and the page contains a highly disturbing article. Be careful while opening it and reading it.

Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. Why don’t all newspapers do the same?
A climate alarmist called Nathan Allen boasts that he is an editor on the reddit.com server linking to random Internet trash. A year ago, after a campaign in which "they" would be "increasingly stringent with deniers", "they" would attach yellow stars to all climate "contrarians" (because "they" didn't like that someone dared to question the climate panic and the research and researchers behind them) and expected a backlash. The backlash was weak, they thought, so they banned all climate skeptics from reddit.com altogether.



Mr Allen recommends the whole Internet to follow the reddit.com "role model" and ban climate skeptics. It's a pretty tall order for a bunch of a few dozens of fanatical nuts like himself to cut something like five billion people from the Internet.




Allen's text closely resembles the pro-regime, anti-dissent propaganda texts we used to know during communism. We hear that all the climate skeptics are paid by the Big Oil – on the other hand, the same writer also says that all of them are genuine believers rather than the typical Internet trolls who control the rest of the server. Now, after the ban, the discussions may only be joined by the likes of Zephir. Neat! ;-)




There are lots of inconsistencies in Allen's text but what is beyond doubt is that he is absolutely determined to harm all the people who are not as deluded as himself when it comes to myths, lies, and fabricated emotions sold as "global warming" or "climate change". In the name of these artificially fabricated pseudoscientific superstitions, he wants to break all rules of a civilized society, he wants to piss on human rights and freedoms of all the types.

The story is sad or alarming but on the other hand, I must admit that it also sounds comical if I imagine that your, Richard Lindzen's, or my account would be suspended by the true local "giant of science", a mental midget like Mr Allen himself who has proclaimed himself to be the protector of the scientific correctness. A mental midget who can't see he is a mental midget at all – a funny concept, we could say.

Fortunately, Mr Allen is an inconsequential hack on a server run by himself and other trolls. But there are others whose thinking has been almost identical and who have been much more powerful. James Hansen has controlled an institute at NASA and Al Gore has threatened the U.S. by the possibility to become its president.

Brendan O'Neill wrote a blog post about the decision at The Telegraph's server:
Reddit has banned climate change deniers, and ripped its own reputation to shreds
His article attracted about 1,500 comments so far and a hundred is added every few minutes. A similar story by Daniel Greenfield at the Frontpage Magazine is called
This is /R/Science, No Debating Here Please
The title is a reference to the reddit.com/r/science "science category" of the server which you're invited to try, too.

Other reactions were posted at the Huffington Post, Outside Magazine, Daily Caller, Social News Daily, International Business Times UK, Blue and Green Tomorrow, Daily Caller, Examiner, Think Progress, and New Statesman.

In my homeland, no one cares about the climate debate in one way or another. There are lots of wrong things about Czechia but one of the positives is that even 24 years after the Velvet Revolution, it's still "not cool" to ideologically profile users of would-be universally important websites.

So I must wish lots of good luck to Allen and his other Gestapo comrades while imposing their laws on blasphemies throughout their irrelevant troll server.

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reader Dilaton said...

Hm, the reddit trolls on the first picture look scary with their glowing read eyes indeed ... ;-). And I would be very happy if it could suck in people like yes Zephyr, Robert L Oldershow, and other dubious figures like a black hole ...!

Hm, how important is this reddit.com server? I honestly never clicked there (but I saw it mentioned some times), but maybe I should create an account there and annoy them a little bit ...

If the reddit.com is suposed to be a sink of trolls, it seems to me that reasonable people such as (so-called climate skeptics too) who want to look at things from a rational scientific point of view, do not have large business to do there anyway ...

But now disallowing reasonable scientific discussions about certain topics such as climate issues, does make them look really not good from afar.
And of course should such crazyness by no means spread out from there to the whole internet.


reader CentralCharge15 said...

While I do believe in Climate Change, I think that completely censoring off climate change - related discussions is quite stupid of reddit.


reader Rehbock said...

I too had never seen this site. I saw nothing there of interest that I had not encountered elsewhere. I did like one post I encountered which warned away from a certain not even wrong troll... Won't be back there but at least something usefulness there said.


reader Bos Gold-G said...

Can I just say what a relief to find someone who actually knows what theyre talking about on the internet. You definitely know how to bring an issue to light and make it important. More people need to read this and understand this side of the story. I cant believe youre not more popular because you definitely have the gift.

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reader Bos Gold-G said...

Can I just say what a relief to find someone who actually knows what theyre talking about on the internet. You definitely know how to bring an issue to light and make it important. More people need to read this and understand this side of the story. I cant believe youre not more popular because you definitely have the gift.

Obat Frigid
Obat Infeksi Pankreas
Obat Gudik
Obat Gangguan Menstruasi


reader Ben Franklin said...

Mr Allen claims to want only peer reviewed materials to be discussed so as to heighten the level of discourse. Oddly enough, there is no mention of whether this same standard would apply to GMOs, fracking, discussions of the dangers of nuclear energy etc...

I think the LA Times and some science magazine... maybe Popular Science, also banned skeptical comments from publication so there is obviously a movement afoot amongst the usual fascists to take back control of a debate they feel they are losing.

It won't help them any.


reader demol said...

Do you believe in natural climate change or in AGW?


reader Luboš Motl said...

I think it's a complete lie that they may universally apply the policy to all topics. Reddit couldn't work like that at all. Just look for my blog - which isn't peer-reviewed in any normal sense - which has been linked to dozens of times before:

http://www.reddit.com/domain/motls.blogspot.com/



It's the whole point of their website that it links to everything - peer-reviewed things are clearly a totally negligible fraction of that.


reader RobotUnicornAttack said...

I think there is some misunderstanding of what Reddit is. Anyone can start a subreddit and moderate it. There is already one for clmate skeptics :: http://www.reddit.com/r/climateskeptics


The actual story is that the mods of r/science (which is a popular, default subreddit) are now insisting that articles linked in that sub-forum are peer-reviewed. That is a bit different that just saying "Reddit is banning climate skeptics.""Reddit" doesn't really ban anything much. It is just a collection of user forums that anybody can set up.


Having said that, the site does attract a certain young, liberal crowd and because unpopular links get downvoted into invisibility there is a hivemind mentality - I beilieve the technical term is a "circlejerk" in which one is free to participate or not.


reader Luboš Motl said...

Thanks for your clarification.