Sunday, February 13, 2005

Shiites win

In agreement with my predictions and predictions of many other people, the large Shiite coalition has won the Iraq elections. They've received about 48 percent of the votes.

The second party is the Kurdish coalition. My favorite Iraqi List follows. The turnout was at 59 percent.

The large Shiite coalition, led by Ayatollah Al-Sistani, is mostly religious - although there are some liberals in it, too - and it will try to transform Iraq into a new kind of Iran. Let's hope that it will stay democratic for some time, and it won't become too dangerous for the world.


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  2. Any one who is not an idiot would have correctly "predicted" the result of Iraq election. It's a no brainer and the result is effectively pre-determined.

    Would this bring in a more peaceful world? I don't think so. Peace and democracy are not correlated either way. Hitler was democratically elected, so was FDR.

    So, shall Iraq now be allowed to develope nuclear weapons, now that it IS a democratic country? If you look around its neighbors, Pakistan and India officially has the stuff. Isreal officially do NOT deny the factorial rumor that it has several hundreds of them. Iran is enriching Uranium for its own "peaceful purpose". We all know what it means: Iran wants to have its own peace by owning its own stuff.

    And what prevents other countries in the neighborhood from having their own as well. If now it looks like the only way to guarantee your own safety, when others have IT, and you don't, is that you shall have it too, so others won't be able to blackmail you using it.

    Unfortunately, the United States has been sending the same wrong message around the world over the years through its actions. The unambiguous message, which is unfortunately true, is that should you have IT then every one else shall pay you a little bit more respect.

    Let's face the fact, nuclear technology is no secret and there is no prohibitive technical barrier for any country or group to get their hands on IT, as long as there is a political will and a sufficient amount of money invested.

    In the next few decades, the world would either evolve into the state where every one has the stuff, or every one collectively decided the stuff is too dangerous to have, and get rid of them all. The current state that some has it, and some don't, is NOT a physically stable state to last very long. So there does not seem to be the possibility that we get rid of them all, The more likely scenary is every one will eventually have the stuff.

    The world is surely becoming an even more dangerous place. No one want to see that happen but that seem to be an un-avoidable destiny.

    This anti-anthropic principle may also explain why NO civilization in the universe has progressed to the point that it conquers whole galaxies and enslave people of other civilizations, including our earth.


  3. I am afraid lubos that token is right, even an idiot could have predicted it.

    "Hitler was democratically elected"

    So was G.W. Bush by the way. I am not sure what it is the actual meaning of these events. Is the whole world fucked up? The famous 'human factor' I guess.

    I usually find token's comments quite useless, this time nonetheless he made a good point (if we delete the part of conquer galaxies and so on) to which I add myself.
    How can USA convince the world they are the illuminated force to bring peace everywhere if they do exactly what they profess to eradicate. And by the way, what USA is currently doing is definitely causing terror, I am terrified.
    Certainly they provide the image that 'power' (preferably nuclear) is all one needs.
    I btw recently heared Rumsfeld saying that: problems in iraq should be fixed by iraqi people. They have their own business now, the 'democracy dream'. No, wait, complaints are not allowed, it does not matter who made the mess in the first place.

    The original motivation for the war was to stop terrorism. I am afraid that it does totally the opposite, it promotes it. Either USA kills them all, which is unlikely, or even an idiot can see where this is going to end.
    I wish the world can find a way out of this mess, either we really evolve or GAME IS OVER.

    best regards.