## Saturday, February 10, 2007

### Vaclav Klaus on global warming

Czech President explains his views on the IPCC panel

See also: Klaus in the Financial Times, Klaus in the U.N., Gore's Nobel prize, Klaus's book in English
Update: Václav Klaus is just visiting Japan and his Japanese notes contain a message to the American non-Al-Gores. Please distribute the link if you like it.

DEUTSCH: HIER KLICKEN (interview)
PORTUGUES: CLIQUE AQUI (interview)
ESPAÑOL: CLIC AQUÍ (interview)
Václav Klaus, the second president of Czechia, is an avid tennis player.

But today, he became a victim of friendly fire. Andy Roddick, owner of the fastest serve in the game today, targeted Klaus' chest with a tennis ball. ;-) Even though the bodyguards proved to be useless under these circumstances, the leader of the Czech Republic survived while America defeated my European homeland in Davis Cup.

This experience hasn't stopped Klaus - who currently enjoys 82% support of the citizens - from analyzing the international climate panel of the United Nations (IPCC). In an interview with "Hospodářské noviny", a Czech financial daily, Klaus answered a couple of questions (well, more precisely, the interview took place yesterday although it was published today, on 02/09/2007; the translation from Czech to Czenglish is due to your humble correspondent):
• [Questions and answers related to EU politics are skipped; the full translation was published on 02/14/2007 in Prague Monitor]
• ...
• Q: On Wednesday, the European Commission (EC) has approved limits on carbon dioxide emissions for new cars. One week ago, the U.N. climate panel (IPCC AR4) released a report that has described, much like previous reports, the global warming as one of the major threats for the whole civilization. The Stern review about similar threats was published before that. At the same time, you decide to declare that the global warming is a myth. Try to explain, how did you get your idea?

• A: The idea is not mine. Global warming is a myth and I think that every serious person and scientist says so. It is unfair to refer to the United Nations panel. IPCC is not a scientific body: it's a political institution, a kind of non-government organization with green flavor. It's not a forum of neutral scientists or a balanced group of scientists. Its members are politicized scientists who arrive there with one-sided sentiments and one-sided tasks. Also, it's an undignified practical joke that people don't wait for the complete report that will appear in May 2007 but instead react, in such a serious manner, to the summary for policy makers where all the "ifs" and "whens" and "buts" are scratched, erased, and replaced by oversimplified theses.
• This is obviously such an incredible failure of so many people, from journalists to politicians... If the European Commission were instantly going to buy such a trick, we would have another solid reason to think that the countries themselves, not the Commission, should be deciding about similar matters.
• Q: How do you explain that we can't see any other comparably senior statesman in Europe who would defend your viewpoint? No one else seems to offer such strong opinions...
• A: My opinions about this issue simply are strong. Other top-tier politicians do not express their global warming doubts because a whip of political correctness strangles their voices.

• Q: But you are not a climatologist. Do you have a sufficient knowledge and enough information?
• A: Environmentalism as a meta-physical ideology and as a world view has absolutely nothing to do with natural sciences or the climate itself. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with social sciences either. Despite these facts, it is getting fashionable and this process scares me. The second part of the assertion should be: we also have plenty of reports, studies, and books of climate scientists whose conclusions are diametrically opposite.
• You're right that I never measure the width of ice in Antarctica. Indeed, I don't know how to do it, I don't intend to learn it, and I don't pretend to be an expert in such measurements. Nevertheless, as a scientifically inclined man, I know how to read science articles about these questions, e.g. about ice in Antarctica. I don't have to be a climate scientist myself to read them. The papers I have read simply don't lead to the conclusions we may see in the media. But let me promise you something: this topic worries me which is why I began to write an article about it last Christmas. The article grew in size and it turned into a book (Blue, not Green Planet). In a few months, it will be published [also in English). Among seven chapters, one will organize my opinions about the climate change.
• Environmentalism and the green ideology are something very different from climate science. Various screams and findings of scientists are misused by this ideology.
• Q: What do you think is the reason that conservative media are skeptical while the left-wing media interpret the global warming as a well-established fact?
• A: It is not quite precisely divided to the right-wingers and left-wingers. Nevertheless it's obvious that environmentalism is a new incarnation of contemporary leftism.
• Q: If you look at these things, even if you were right...
• A: ...I am right...
• Q: ...Don't we have empirical evidence and facts accessible to our eyes that imply that Man is ruining the planet and himself?
• A: It's such a nonsense that I have probably not yet heard a greater nonsense.

This page was the 8th hottest page of the global blogosphere on Feb 13, 2007. See also conversation tracker. Besides a thousand of blogs, a special report at the Drudge Report, and the Washington Times - where congratulations from James Inhofe were also reported - the interview was publicized at Foxnews (video).
• Q: Don't you believe that we're demolishing our planet?
• A: Let me pretend that I haven't heard you. Perhaps only Mr Al Gore can argue along these lines: a sane person hardly. I don't see any destruction of the planet, I have never seen it, and I don't think that a sensible and serious person might say that he has. Look: you belong to the economic media so we should expect a certain economical erudition from you. My book will clarify these questions. For instance, we know that there exists a strong correlation between the care we give to our environment on one side and the technological prowess and wealth on the other side. It's obvious that the poorer the societies are, the more roughly they behave towards Nature, and vice versa: the richer they become, the more they care about the environment.
• It's also the case that there exist social systems that are damaging the environment - by eliminating private ownership and similar things - much more than the free societies. These tendencies become crucial in the long term. They unquestionably imply that today, on February 8th, 2007, Nature is protected incomparably more than on February 8th ten, fifty, or one hundred years ago.
• That's the reason why I ask: how can you pronounce the sentence you told me? Perhaps when you're unconscious? Or was it meant merely as a provocation? And I may perhaps be just too naive and I allowed you to provoke me to present all these answers to you, am I not? It is more likely that you simply present your honest opinion.
• ...
• [Questions and Klaus' answers about Czech politics followed; the full translation was published on 02/14/2007 in Prague Monitor]

Well, it seems to make a lot of sense, Prof Klaus. Other parts of the interview were devoted to the Organization of European States (and Jo Leinen, MEP), the Czech civil cold war that has already ended, a possible radar for the U.S. missile defense, and the president's relationships with the new Czech government.

Show postings on this blog that contain the word Klaus such as Klaus' talk at Cato or Klaus' letter to the U.S. Congress.

See also The Great Global Warming Swindle documentary and the most important fact about the ice core: co2 lags temperature. Sunspots and cosmic rays seem to be correlated with temperature much more closely than CO2.

Other topics:

1. with regards to his comments about correlation of wealth and environmental protection -- http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/politics_conservative/93491

I don't understand this current obsession with claiming that things are getting worse and worse when things are clearly getting better and better.

2. Thank you for sharing the translation with the public. You are linked by Matt Drudge, and also he is carrying an excerpt: http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

3. Correct if I am wrong... but were the vikings used to live and harvest in "Greenland", which is covered with ice NOW? And we, as humans, are destroying ourselves, then why human life expectancy is two, three times comparing to our ancestors' .... An final question: what happened to the ice ages (in PLURAL)? please don't tell me it's the weather......lol...

4. Thank You so much for posting this artcile. Your blog is definitely raising some important questions about this issue.

John stossel takes a serious, but slightly humorous approach to the matter as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/07/a_convenient_lie.html

5. It seems that many of the contrarian scientists are starting to speak up. Consider, for example, whether warming might actually be a good thing or the hypothesis that the sun's magnetic field is the dominant factor in global warming or cooling.

6. Bravo Mr President....

You need to train American politicians in the art of putting idiots in their place...

And then this Global Warming farce would come to sudden end..and America and World can go back to pursuing useful dreams and not complete buffoonery

major

7. I don't know if climate is warming or not, but I believe that shouting "oh, we're all going to die" in a crowded room is illegal in most countries. It should be illegal to shout "oh, global warming, we're all gonna die", too. Getting all panicky about it would not help but open way for wrong decisions.

8. I have translated the interview into Spanish on my blog
http://www.elcuentoclimatico.blogspot.com/

Thanks for sharing.

9. It seems the AdSense thing can backfire once in a while. The top of your blog has an ad asking me to help save the polar bears because their habitat is melting. I thought that was pretty funny.

10. With all respect to mr. Klaus past, his presence is aiming towards target of all shortsighted senile fossils: "After us, the deluge." (Remember, he's dinosaur form Gorbatchev, Wałęsa, Reagan, Thatcher times...)

11. Hello! I am just droping a note to let you know that I have posted a link to your blog on www.whatisclimate.com, in the "Don't miss" box. I am very curious about the outcome of the debate and I can only say it's great that there are also political people that have the guts to contradict Gore.

12. Hello:

I am using this space, if your moderators will allow me, to announce
to your readers and whoever else surfs on by, the start of the
international ''Vaclav Klaus Climate Joke Awards'' here:
http://climatejokeawards.blogspot.com
http://climatejokeawards.blogspot.com

They "honor" (sic) people who say stupid things about the climate
crisis. The awards are satire. Then again, maybe they aren't satire.
The page is up now and running and we are accepting nominations via
the comment section throught the year, anytime you spot a good quote,
send it in.

Cheers,

PS: if you want to do a separate blog one day on the awards blog,
please feel free to do so.

13. the
international ''Vaclav Klaus Climate Joke Awards'' here:
http://climatejokeawards.blogspot.com
http://climatejokeawards.blogspot.com

14. mr. klaus has a point. there is not enough evidence to support the human cause (CO2) of global warming. he is wrong in saying that is not happening. it is taking place. but it is not the first time and it wont be the last.

15. Ivan Loyola has a point and a good one.

re: "mr. klaus has a point. there is not enough evidence to support the human cause (CO2) of global warming. he is wrong in saying that is not happening. it is taking place. but it is not the first time and it wont be the last. "

Okay, so then what action should we take in your opinion? Just watch nature play itself out, and should we as society take some kind of action to reduce c02 river flooding? Or just stand back and watch river rise, since it is natural?

In your opinion, what should we do? I am open to all answers, no agenda here and no agenda on my website of the Klaus Awards, both sides of the debate are welcome.

-- Danny

16. Sure, I have a comment, Dan: instead of calling people who are skeptical about anthropogenic climate change stupid by awarding them a "joke award", why don't you present the personal credentials that qualify you to dispute these many highly educated people? Thanks in advance.

The REAL joke is your blog.

17. Brother Michael,
Thanks for comment. Now, let's be civil. I tried to email you but your blog does give email address. you can contact me here: bloom.reporter at GMAIL. try it, i will email back to you and discuss politely your comment.

I never said President Klaus is stupid, he is a smart man. But when he calls climate change a joke, that's how the climate joke awards got started. But i never called him stupid. I never call people stupid.

Now, u want to know my credentials. Email me. Or look here:

http://northwardho.blogspot.com

and be civil, Sir. you like music, i like music, we can agree to disagree but we should be polite, yes?

danny
Tufts 1971

18. Brother M
read the disclaimer i posted six months ago:

Dan

DISCLAIMER:

Naming these awards after Vaclav Klaus -- the honorable, well-educated and distinguised president of the Czech Republic, who grew up in the upper-middle class residential Vinohrady neighborhood of Prague and graduated from the University of Economics in Prague in 1963 and also spent some time at Cornell University in the United States -- is not meant in any way to disparage the genuine humanity and good intentions of Mr Klaus, who despite his views on climate change, is, in the estimation of this blog, a fine and upstanding citizen of Planet Earth, with or without a climate crisis on its hands. We like the man, and we love his country. Kafka would be proud of these awards, we are sure!

END DISCLAIMER