## Sunday, August 08, 2010 ... //

### Ed Markey wants an icy concentration camp for 4 billion people

The Nazis have at least dedicated villages and built new buildings to collect the people they didn't like. For environmentalists, this is too much of a luxury. A left-wing political representative of Massachusetts, Mr Ed Markey, proposed a cheaper solution.

Markey: Deniers of global warming should 'start their own country' (The Hill)
MA pol: warming skeptics should move to ice island (The Boston Globe)
Where should the new country for 4 billion people be located? Well, he has an answer:
"An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country," Markey said in a statement.
Is 100 square miles really a lot of room for 4 billion people? He justifies his plans by his own, idiosyncratic temperature record
“So far, 2010 has been the hottest year on record, and scientists agree arctic ice is a canary in a coal mine that provides clear warnings on climate."
Well, pretty much every month of 2010 - and the average - was cooler than the same month of 1998 which is 12 years ago. When a chair of a self-appointed "global warming" senate committee is proposing gigantic concentration camps, he may want to be more careful while looking at the climate data.

The Arctic ice is not just a canary in a coal mine. As Milankovitch managed to realize as the first person, the fluctuating insolation and weather in the Arctic actually drives much of the climate change on the Earth: that's why the ice ages and interglacials alternate. However, the Arctic itself is primarily affected by the Sun, the orbital fluctuations, and ocean circulation.

He said it was "unclear how many giant blocks of ice it will take to break the block of Republican climate deniers in the US Senate who continue hold this critical clean energy and climate legislation hostage."
Well, it may be "unclear" to hostile yet under-educated left-wing politicians but it is an easy-to-calculate number, at least approximately. Just in Greenland, ten thousand icebergs break away from the Greenland glaciers every year. Because the Sun will exist in its current form for 5 billion years when it will become a red giant, you can see that just Greenland will experience additional 50 trillion icebergs breaking away before the Earth will agree to regulate its climate and cool down.

Well, yes, I have neglected the future continental drift but the goal was to find a sensible idea about the number. Does it answer your question, Mr Markey? The ice is breaking, it has always been breaking, and it will be breaking. An answer of order "one" that you apparently expected is surely wrong.

Needless to say, it is much more natural, user-friendly, and human to relocate the global warming alarmists to the icebergs because they're afraid of the warm weather around 15 degrees Celsius (or even scary, frying 16 degrees Celsius). They should sell their lives for tons of carbon permits, in order to guarantee a luxurious life for the few pandas who will remain here instead of them, and go away. Their methods and ideals are surely incompatible with the principles and ambitions of the United States of America.

Well, I am just writing this story for the future readers to know that if Mr Markey will have to be executed for crimes against the humanity sometime around 2020, there has been a pre-history that has led him where it has led him.

#### snail feedback (5) :

Markey, you need to check yourself into a mental hospital. The fact that you still believe in AGW, in the light of Climategate, indicates you either have no brain or you are a scam artist trying to screw the American people out of as much money you can possibly get with your evil cap-n-tax.

As an alternative I propose an exile for silly politicians on St Helena (exile of Napoleon).
It is 122 Km^2 and OK for these few, politically and financially motivated few.
Now, up to now Luxembourg was the standard and not Manhattan since last year in the Antarctic of the size of Luxembourg broke off.
But that standard became too large since the calving was only 1/10 of Luxembourg!

Pandas??

Looks like Lubos supports Danny Bloom's ''polar cities'' idea...

"Needless to say, it is much more natural and human to relocate the global warming alarmists to the icebergs because they're afraid of the warm weather around 15 degrees Celsius (or even scary, frying 16 degrees Celsius). They should sell their lives for tons of carbon permits, in order to guarantee a luxurious life for the few pandas who will remain here, and go away. Their methods and ideals are surely incompatible with the principles and ambitions of the United States of America."

Looks like Lubos supports Danny Bloom's polar cities...

RE: chris y in
florida on Dot earth on
August 8th, 3010 said:

re post No. 8 Andy Revkin- "The office of Representative Edward Markey, ..."

At first I thought this was from the Onion. Amazing...

Lubos Motl has a considered response here-

Looks like Lubos supports Danny Bloom's ''polar cities'' idea...

"Needless to say, it is much more natural and human to relocate the global warming alarmists to the icebergs because they're afraid of the warm weather around 15 degrees Celsius (or even scary, frying 16 degrees Celsius). They should sell their lives for tons of carbon permits, in order to guarantee a luxurious life for the few pandas who will remain here, and go away. Their methods and ideals are surely incompatible with the principles and ambitions of the United States of America."

Looks like Lubos supports Danny Bloom's polar cities...

RE: chris y in
florida on Dot earth on
August 8th, 3010 said:

re post No. 8 Andy Revkin- "The office of Representative Edward Markey, ..."

At first I thought this was from the Onion. Amazing...

Lubos Motl has a considered response here-