His wife Jennifer Ouellette wrote an even better popular review for the Quanta Magazine, as Gordon pointed out.

It's about the description of spacetime as a tensor network. This theme was implicitly used in Beni Yoshida's guest blog about quantum error-correcting codes and quantum gravity five weeks ago – and in a report about a 2013 talk by Maldacena.

Here, I want to sketch what this "quantum gravity from tensor networks" stuff is and what it's not. TRF readers surely expect me to be outraged by something. The main claim that I find outrageous is Carroll's statement that in this topic

"[p]erhaps more intriguingly, the idea of 'string theory' never really enters the game."Wow, quite a summary.

The basic picture is that you cover the spacetime by a network like this:

The spacetime emerges – either exactly or approximately – from such a network. Or to say the least, the network is a good toy model to understand certain features of the quantum gravitational spacetime.

That's nice but at the level of this picture, it could mean very different things.

In particular, you could say that this is nothing else than the spin network in loop quantum gravity. In that would-be theory of quantum gravity, one also imagines that the spacetime is covered by graphs like that. You could say that but it is better if you are careful about

- what you actually do with the network
- whether all nodes in the graph are equally important.

In loop quantum gravity, one defines the wave function as a function of all the open monodromies you get on all the edges. In the tensor network approach to quantum gravity – which I will call MERA, an acronym that will be explained soon – the wave function depends on the quantum information living in the nodes, and nodes of a given "generation" in the family tree only.

Graphs that are similar to the MERA tensor networks appear as contractions of tensors in Penrose's "multi-leg beetles" notation (see the picture above); as Feynman diagrams (see Mrs Feynman's van), and many other things. To a limited extent, MERA shares the mathematics with all of them, but the meaning of all the objects is a little bit different.

You are surely waiting for my anger so I must tell you what it is going to be about

*before*I overwhelm you with many other historical and technical details. OK, my anger ignited by Carroll's assertion about MERA and string theory is based on two facts:

- pretty much at every stage, the MERA approach to quantum gravity was inspired by observations in string theory
- no fully consistent MERA model of quantum gravity that wouldn't be string theory is known (and most likely, no one is mathematically possible, either)

Let's look at the history of MERA, starting from 2007. Guifre Vidal began with the idea in the 2007 PRL paper

Entanglement renormalizationthat you may want to look at because it's rather readable and "fundamental". Early followups were written by Aguado and Vidal and Evenbly and Vidal in 2007-2008. All these people are condensed matter physicists.

Carroll cites Evenbly and Vidal as the originators of MERA, the multi-scale entanglement renormalization Ansatz, but it was actually introduced by Vidal only in 2006. That's one of the smaller errors in Carroll's description.

What is the entanglement renormalization? It is an "improvement" of Leo Kadanoff's classic "block spins" explanation of Kenneth Wilson's renormalization group.

In the 1970s, Kadanoff realized that you may find an effective theory for many quantum degrees of freedom – all those that are living on the 4 sites in a square on the picture above – by merging these four sites into one, and replacing four by "one daddy". There was probably a reason to think that the values of the degrees of freedom on the four sites were similar, so replacing them with an average of a sort isn't too bad if you only allow "long waves". You may calculate how the "daddy squares" effectively interact with their neighbors from the interactions of the original smaller "daughter sites".

You may repeat this step many times. Merge four daddies to one granddad, and so on. In this way, you may calculate the effective theory describing ever longer distances. In the renormalization group methodology applied to quantum field theory, we usually deal with continuous changes of the length scale but the basic idea is contained in those Kadanoff's block spins, too.

At this moment, you could notice that there was nothing excessively "quantum mechanical" about Kadanoff's procedure. You may pretty much imagine that this procedure is applied to a classical theory, too. Well, in a purely classical theory, the whole power of the renormalization group would evaporate – all the renormalization group "running" is generated by the quantum processes. But conceptually, you were allowed to imagine that the degrees of freedom on the sites carried something like the "classical information".

It works for quantum theories, too. However, there is one major general phenomenon that captures what is new about quantum mechanics: entanglement. It seems that Kadanoff's game ignores entanglement between the daughters who share a daddy. But that isn't a lethal problem that makes the whole method invalid (because, in principle, all the short-distance entanglement much like the short-distance anything should become irrelevant for the long-distance questions). Instead, it is just a problem for computations. If you try to group the "spins" in a 2-dimensional (or higher-dimensional) condensed matter physics, the adjacent sites are actually entangled. This short-term entanglement accumulates too quickly and prevents you from defining the effective theory at very long distances.

Vidal's "entanglement renormalization" is a particular improvement of Kadanoff's renormalization that fights against this pernicious accumulation of entanglement. Before you merge the daughter spins into one daddy, you add one more step by Vidal: You apply disentanglers! It's some unitary transformation on the daughter spins that removes as much short-distance entanglement as you can. If you repeat these steps, "disentanglement" and "merging daughters into a daddy", many times, you may determine a better effective theory at long distances. In fact, if you look what's happening with all these disentanglers – which are effectively the vertices of the network – you may reconstruct the wave function of all the "granddaughters" in terms of a very small amount of information carried by the "great granddad".

A funny aspect analogous to the usual renormalization group is that all the RG procedures may be scale-invariant (although only under scaling factors that are discrete, e.g. powers of two or another number): in every step, you are doing the same thing and the wave function of the (scale-invariant) theory is one that entangles the granddaughters in the same way as daughters or mothers.

So Vidal's "entanglement renormalization" is a Kadanoff-style discrete renormalization group procedure with some extra step of "disentanglement" added at each layer. This step is described by some "beetles" in the network that convert some quantum information to some other quantum information. OK? MERA is an Ansatz based on the same idea.

Where is string theory in all of that? Those guys have been condensed matter physicists, weren't they? Well, they still found it a great idea to study this technique in order to understand different phases of matter, especially the topological order. Topological phases in condensed matter physics were said by Levin and Wen to occur thanks to the string net condensation.

Xiao-Gang Wen of MIT was obviously inspired by string theory. Although we came from different cultures, it was fun to interact with him. Before Christmas 2004, I invited him to the Duality Seminar at Harvard where he was talking about the string condensation, too. He tried to formulate his theories – even though they were theories in condensed matter physics – as a closed string theory of a sort. Well, I always thought and still think that what he exactly had in mind didn't satisfy all the conditions to be called "string theory" by string theorists but it was close enough. In the 1980s, Wen wrote numerous string theory papers – with co-authors such as Witten, Seiberg, and Dine.

So this methodology of constructing the ground state of a complicated system – by the repeated action of the disentanglers – was used by condensed matter physicists for a decade or so.

In 2008, Brian Swingle was a condensed matter physics graduate student at MIT and he co-wrote a paper with Wen and 2 pals about the tensor-product representations for string-net condensed states – that's actually the title. So at that time, he was already deeply incorporated into this culture of condensed matter physicists who find string theory inspiring. He was also taking John McGreevy's MIT course on string theory. Search for Swingle in these lecture notes. ;-)

But his own famous paper – his second paper – came in 2009:

Entanglement Renormalization and HolographyHe said the thing that may be obvious to you by now: the MERA string networks – with the hierarchy of daughters and daddies – may be intepreted as a discretization of anti de Sitter space. And the label identifying the generation – the degree of merging the daughters – may be identified with the discretized radial (holographic) direction in the AdS/CFT correspondence.

To say the least, the tensor networks covering the AdS space look like a toy model of Maldacena's holographic AdS/CFT correspondence!

This toy model may have some limitations. For example, it is discrete while the AdS space is continuous. So the network may prevent you from reconstructing physics at distances shorter than (or comparable to) the AdS radius. Only at longer distances, you may get the proper holography. This comment is a major point made by the recent preprint co-authored by Carroll but you could have known it from TRF at least from Summer 2013 (search for "longer than"), too.

This point is

- unsurprising
- strong circumstantial evidence against Carroll's claim that you can do holography without string theory.

This construction of quantum gravitational spacetime from similar networks is therefore also closely related to the ER-EPR correspondence and Van Raamsdonk's glue-entanglement duality that he had studied for some time before that. The concept behind Swingle's toy model is great but at some point, one must ask what are the actual tensors that make a particular theory work. And one probably finds that no naive theory based on "qubits" or "qutrits" (or any finite-dimensional Hilbert space) will be quite physical.

Physical theories living in the usual continuous spacetimes almost certainly need infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces that admit operators with continous spectra. And when one adds all these technical features, he gets another formulation of string theory – or a superselection sector of string theory. I am confident that everything that is "less than that" (less than a full-fledged string/M-theory) will either lack the local excitations or the continuous symmetries such as the local Poincaré symmetry or both. Or it will be inconsistent.

At any rate, this story shows the creative flow of ideas between high-energy theoretical physics and condensed matter theoretical physics. And when we talk about these flows that are still ongoing, "high-energy theoretical physics" really means "string theory", whether someone finds it intriguing or not (you definitely should!).

Thank you for the nice explanation of the relation between MERA and the usual Migdal-Kadanoff renormgroup idea!

ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase George Costanza:

ReplyDelete"I believe that [Zeman and the Czech Republic are] about to become the target of a systematic process of intimidation and manipulation, the likes of which you have never - "

Probably funded by my tax dollars.

Thanks Lubos for the clarifying blog post.I read Sean's blog before yours and was confused! I had heard previously that entanglement is *monogamous* in the sense that maximal entanglement can be only between two spins. I think the very important word you used is *disentanglement* which is not present in Sean's blog. Is this correct? I have now some qualitative understanding although it is far from mathematical understanding. Once they solve this problem then the remaining problem will be how to translate it into world with positive CC. What do you think?

ReplyDeleteOT — very.

ReplyDeleteI posted the following comment on a British anti-EU website recently but the blog owner removed it. I guess he didn't find it very

helpful™. I was very disappointed. Maybe he thinks I'm too extreme in my anti-eu, anti-gummint, anti-immigrunt stance, among other things of course. I, on the other hand, think my bijou contribution to the debate sums up our dumbarse electorate very nicely. This time will be no exception. They'll vote for shit. They'll get shit. It's quite simple. And, yes, this IS what I think of my fellow countrymen,en masse. But like you, Luboš, I wouldn't have any others.The Great British Election DebateParticipants:GSFDC- Great Shit-Faced Demagogueharmonic ConductorGBPPC- Great British Public Philmoronic ChoirGSFDC:They want to pull down the old pub.GBPPC:

BOO!GSFDC:

We're gonna build a new one.GBPPC:

HOORAY!GSFDC:

They're gonna make the barmaids wear black stockings.GBPPC:

BOO!GSFDC:

We'll make 'em wear nothing else.GBPPC:

HOORAY!...... and on and on and on it goes.

F#ck.

[Based on an old refrain.]

I would like to add that the looks of an average Czech woman are definitely not on the boring side, compared to some of the 'more important' nations..

ReplyDeleteDear Lumo,

ReplyDeletePlease don't hesitate to be economical with your time by either ignoring or answering my slightly off-topic question with a single 2-letter word.

[However, if you would invest in a response that predominantly features 4-letter words, then I hope to be able to absorb them via my chin! :-)]

Does the concept of “closed strings” imply (perhaps already do so with some explicit stringy/M'y maths?) that "closed" specifically refers to our relatively familiar 4 spacetime dimensions but that these (hadron particle related) observables are nonetheless in some sense 'open' in the remaining 6 dimensions (and that CERN-collider might glean some experimental indication of this)?

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P.S.

I intuitively demand or beg (not from you but from What most fundamentally Is going on) that the answer be a “Yes”;

Do even though I conceived the question as usual; that is, by reckless and somewhat random and 'maths-less reckonings' and hasty (too speedy hence shameful) physics-related philosophical speculation.

Dear Kashyap, yup, I think that without the concept of disentanglement, or something equivalent to it, texts about this topic can't be separated from talk about tons of other, more usual topics.

ReplyDeletePositive-cosmological-constant physics is qualitatively different from AdS, so I think that if you generalized this formalism to a positive-cosmological-constant space, you would know how to generalize to *any* allowed space.

I think that you're way too obsessed with the particular Universe around us (as studied by cosmologists). This is not really the focus of this kind of research.

Dear Peter, the word "open" means that the object - string - has two end points, like a line interval. The word "closed" means that the endpoints are connected, like if you create a circle.

ReplyDeleteIn general, those simple words have nothing whatever to do with the difference between hidden and visible dimensions, or with anything else that you suggest.

In string theory, one must always have some closed strings. For example, gravitons are always closed strings. Other elementary particles may be identified with closed or open strings, depending on the precise string model. Open strings may exist, or be absent. In a model where open strings exist, there must exist D-branes on which the open strings may attach their ends.

In models meant to describe the Universe around us, the D-branes filling the vacuum must be extended in all the 3+1 dimensions we know. But these D-branes may be localized in some - but not necessarily all - extra dimensions. In other words, they may wrap some subspace of the hidden dimension space, too.

OT: Luboš, did you see that Marine Le Pen is meeting with Vaclav Klaus this morning ? I bet they'll agree on everything. ;-)

ReplyDeleteNo, I didn't, Shannon. Was it aired live somewhere? ;-) They agree on things that are important for Le Pen, to say the least. ;-)

ReplyDelete"Spacetime from tensor networks" - This is a big claim, but has anybody ever shown that one gets the Einstein equations in some appropriate limit ? As far as I know Wen et al. have not shown this so far.

ReplyDeleteOT Hope you're able to watch some of the Ice Hockey World Championships. This tournament may be the last time Jaromir Jagr will compete for the Czech Republic in front of Czech crowds.

ReplyDeleteWen et al. isn't the main guy doing this stuff.

ReplyDeleteNo, there is no derivation of Einstein's equations because the available simple toy models of the tensor networks only work at distance scales longer than the curvature scale - while the precise equations for the curvature demand the theory to understand distances shorter than the curvature length scale.

But when one shows that a theory defined by the tensor networks is equivalent to a case of AdS/CFT (probably an extended theory with continuous MERA, and so on), then it follows that it has Einstein's equations because it's been proven for AdS/CFT.

Yes, I am watching many matches.

ReplyDeleteOur team is playing OK but it is no longer a team I expect to win the gold.

The newer generations are less golden than Jagr's generation so it's also onceivable that it is *not* the last one on which the 43-year-old Jagr plays.

Lubos,

ReplyDeletethanks. Wen et al.have actually derived quite a lot of the SM already and gravity supposedly is on their TODO list (Wen has given several talks on that).

Personally I remain highly skeptical unless I see how this approach makes contact with the known physics of ST.

I'm afraid this could be getting a similar story as with loop quantum gravity where a huge industry has formed and still they are not able to make contact with GR. (Actually most crackpot theories have this "feature" :-))

She doesn't wear plastic bags, Lubos, she carries them !😃 She is not a selfie type at all. I'm sure this trip will help her forget about the family issues with Dad. The media are all over them as Sarkozy is trying to fond his space back and Hollande doesn't want him... He prefers Marine as he'll have more chance to won again in 2017... Ah politics... I am becoming a royalist now... Sick of these elections to choose the best poser, talker, hooker... 😉

ReplyDeleteCarrying plastic bags is just a step towards wearing them. ;-)

ReplyDeleteHer exchanges with her dad are covered by our media, too.

Hard to say but Dad is really pissed off to see his party stolen by gays and communists and avant-gardistes. I don't blame him.

ReplyDeleteFor those of you, like me, who are not real initiates of string theory, starting with Mark von Raamsdonk's paper,

ReplyDeletehttp://arxiv.org/abs/1005.3035

is a good start and not overly intimidating. Here is his explanation in semi-layspeak:

http://www.2physics.com/2010/06/quantum-gravity-and-entanglement.html

Mark is a string theorist at UBC, and is a very smart person and saxophonist :)

Neglecting Carrolls happiness when thinking that string theory is not involved in the business, these ideas seem very interesting and I like the connections to recent insights alluded to in this TRF post.

ReplyDeleteVery inspiring :-)

Bootstrap Universe from Self-Referential Noise

ReplyDeletehttp://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2005/PP-02-10.PDF

dear lubos I still do not see the string net ST connection.

ReplyDeleteDear Qsa, there are many connections but the most obvious one is that the only known context where string networks have any reason to be connected to gravity is the AdS/CFT, and general arguments known in string theory for quite some year indicate that every CFT is dual to an AdS space with quantum gravity and that all such CFTs, at least in a sufficiently high dimension (more than 1+1), describe string theory.

ReplyDeleteAll the working examples of that simply *have to be* just a different description for string theory.

When doing an RG flow analysis of a system, what difference if any does it make from a physics point of view, if the "conventional" or the entanglement RG group is applied?

ReplyDeletehttp://www.physicsoverflow.org/30781/conventional-analysis-physics-compared-entanglement-analysis

Dear Dilaton, did you actually try to read at least the first pages of the papers by Vidal (and co-authors)?

ReplyDeletehttp://authors.library.caltech.edu/9242/1/VIDprl07.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.0348

http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.0879

http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0610099